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Taskings & Responses An Interview with Joe McMoneagle
by Jed Bendix
(continued from page 8)
JB: What were
your thoughts and feelings when Lieutenant Skip Atwater
first described remote viewing to you?
JM: I didn’t believe him. I thought,
“This I’ll have to see before I’ll believe it.”
JB: As a military remote viewer,
you worked on a wide range of national-security
situations, such as the Iranian hostage crisis, the
General Dozier kidnapping, and the launch of a Soviet
Typhoon-class submarine. Can you describe your
involvement in any of these events?
JM: It wasn’t the launch of a Soviet submarine;
it was the development of a completely new class of
submarine, the Typhoon class, which the U.S. was unaware
of. The National Security Council [NSC] knew about a
very large building in the north of the Soviet Union,
where a lot of raw materials were being shipped in. But
they were unable to ascertain what was going on inside
the building; it was too secure, and they had no access.
They forwarded an overhead photograph of the building to
the STAR GATE office and asked that it be targeted. They
put the photograph of the building inside an opaque
envelope and tasked me with describing what they needed
to know about what was inside the envelope. Over the
course of a few days, I basically described the
construction of a new type of submarine significantly
larger than any that were extant. I also said it was
much wider or broader since they were fitting two hulls
together side-by-side. I noted that it had slanted
missile tubes, which were new capabilities for the
Soviets; it meant they could launch their ICBMs while
moving and no longer had to become stationary in order
to launch. When we reported these facts, some within the
NSC said they didn’t believe the material; they thought
it was fantasy. Hearing this, I predicted the new
submarine would be launched within 112 days; those who
believed our reports ensured that overhead satellites
were targeted on the building 112 days out. Within four
to six days of my prediction, the Soviets launched the
Typhoon submarine – TK208 – “Dmitri Donskoi;” it was a
brand new Akula-class submarine. It was launched on
September 23, 1980, and we were able to photograph it
sitting at the docks being outfitted. Had we missed the
launch, we might not have known about this submarine for
months afterward. We certainly would have taken years
collecting the intelligence we were able to collect in
just a few days.
JB: Please
describe your history and work with SRI International,
formerly known as Stanford Research Institute.
JM: Almost immediately after
retiring from the U.S. Army -- September 1, 1984 -- I
was hired as a research consultant by Stanford Research
Institute, where they could continue to use my expertise
within the STAR GATE program. I worked as both a remote
viewer and researcher at that lab until it closed in
1988. I then moved with the lab to Science Applications
International Corporation, where I continued to do
remote viewing as well as research until the STAR GATE
program closed in November of 1995. I then moved with
the lab to the Laboratories for Fundamental Research in
Palo Alto, where I am still a research associate. I am
well versed in scientific research and development
within the general field of paranormal exploration.
JB: At the heart of remote
viewing is an established scientific protocol. Can you
explain a little of the history of its development and
the importance of following the protocol?
JM: The protocol was developed in the
early 1970s at SRI International by Dr. Hal Puthoff and
Russell Targ, with the participation of Ingo Swann and a
man named Pat Price. The protocol is intended to create
specific conditions wherein a human being is forced to
use psychic functioning in order to describe an unknown
target location. At the time, they were using people who
would actually travel to the randomly chosen site, and
these people were called “outbounders.” The way it
worked was: They had a large number of possible
locations identified within sealed envelopes that were
numbered and stored inside a safe. They would generate a
random number, select one of the envelopes, and the
outbounder would take that envelope and drive away from
the lab with the envelope still sealed. Meanwhile, the
remote viewer and a monitor would be secured within a
sealed and windowless room within the lab. After driving
some distance from the lab, the outbounder would open
the sealed envelope and read their instructions on where
to go and what the targeted location was. They would
then drive there in order to be on site at a prearranged
time. At that time, back in the sealed room at the lab,
the remote viewer was shown a photograph of the
outbounder and asked to describe where she/he was
standing.
The remote viewer’s responses were
taped, and their drawings would then be formally
recorded and appropriately filed. At a specific time,
the outbounder would return to the lab and then drive
the remote viewer and monitor back to the actual
targeted location for formal feedback. All evaluations
and judging of the materials were done totally
independently from those who participated in the remote
viewing. Modifications were later made to this protocol,
which eliminated the outbounder and replaced them with
other forms of targeting. Initially, [ed., geographic]
coordinates were used to target specific locations
somewhere on the planet surface, but there were
complaints that the remote viewers might be operating
from eidetic memory or might have photographic recall
for where or what those coordinates might represent. So,
the coordinates were placed inside sealed envelopes, and
the sealed and opaque envelopes were used for targeting.
The idea was to force the remote viewer to rely totally
on their psychic ability to produce whatever information
was desired. In all cases, the protocol -- in whatever
variation might be used -- requires the remote viewer
and the monitor, or anyone else inside the room with the
viewer, to be totally blind to the target.
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